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		<title>By: The New Era of Media Development Part I &#171; The Levisa Lazer</title>
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		<dc:creator>The New Era of Media Development Part I &#171; The Levisa Lazer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ecosystem, Josh points out, is simply the cost of access to information. Rwandans, for example, spend an estimated 65% of their disposable income (and 17% of total income) just on mobile [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ecosystem, Josh points out, is simply the cost of access to information. Rwandans, for example, spend an estimated 65% of their disposable income (and 17% of total income) just on mobile [...]</p>
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		<title>By: El Oso &#187; Archive &#187; The New Era of Media Development</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Oso &#187; Archive &#187; The New Era of Media Development</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ecosystem, Josh points out, is simply the cost of access to information. Rwandans, for example, spend an estimated 65% of their disposable income (and 17% of total income) just on mobile [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tear down that (mobile garden) wall &#171; Crossing the Streams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tear down that (mobile garden) wall &#171; Crossing the Streams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] then there&#8217;s the cost of the voice calls or SMS messages to consider. African mobile analyst Steve Song has been fierce on this issue. Even in developed countries SMS charges are large compared to the incremental cost [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Joe Willcox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Willcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve - I&#039;m really glad I found your blog and this article. It&#039;s been useful to read views which challenge the assumptions I&#039;ve made about how successfully mobile operators balance their profit/shareholder value motives with stated intentions to have a positive impact on the lives of poor people in developing countries. In my own blog I&#039;ve tended to be a cheerleader for much of what you challenge here, often arguing, for example, for a consolidation of mobile markets across developing countries - i.e. a smaller number of more powerful and profitable cellcos. In my most recent blog entry, I describe how your writing challenges these assumptions:

http://developing-telecoms.blogspot.com/2009/08/balancing-with-profit-motive-with.html

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve &#8211; I&#8217;m really glad I found your blog and this article. It&#8217;s been useful to read views which challenge the assumptions I&#8217;ve made about how successfully mobile operators balance their profit/shareholder value motives with stated intentions to have a positive impact on the lives of poor people in developing countries. In my own blog I&#8217;ve tended to be a cheerleader for much of what you challenge here, often arguing, for example, for a consolidation of mobile markets across developing countries &#8211; i.e. a smaller number of more powerful and profitable cellcos. In my most recent blog entry, I describe how your writing challenges these assumptions:</p>
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<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Crichton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Crichton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Steve.

Your point on the role of governments is well-made and the crux of the problem.

Right now most countries in Africa have multiple operators stemming from the liberalization of the markets on the last few years. World wide few countries except the very largest can sustain more than 4 operators, so the operator competitive situation in Africa is actually pretty good. Coverage competition is another matter, but the nature of dispersed populations and large land mass means this is never going to easy to fix.

For an investor point of view, governments in Africa are at best ineffective. Ministers are all too often ignorant of technology and ignorant of implications such as levying taxes, as many do, on mobile services.

To invest the sort of sums of money needed to roll out a nationwide network or new service eg data, and operator needs to show to the investor how to get a return on the money with some sort of security over time that rules won&#039;t change.

Every change of government, minister or tax policy creates a cost for us in terms of risk management.

But equally distorting is where governments try to &quot;promote&quot; an industry ie seeing telecoms as an enabling infrastructure and then using governmental power whether subsidies, rules or legislation to force the pace along. All too often this actually results in certain companies being favoured, even to the point of unanticipated monopoly.

In the absence of good policy, we would all prefer the governments to set policy and then allow the market to proceed under the national commission supervision.

Where we can discuss good policy with government, they quickly realise your point that telecoms IS an enabling infrastructure.

For your information my company is planning a major investment in a country where we are able to link up with various ministries such as towns, power, water and roads. An effective policy here we are promoting is to obtain multiple benefits from the investment. So the machinery needed to dig fibre routes will be used at very marginal added cost to dig power lines and building foundations.  The equipment that follows to build the repeater stations or cellular towers will, when finished, then build the village school and clinic - again at marginal cost for the authorities.

It has taken a very patient three years for our team to arrive at this point. As soon as contracts are signed I will let you know our website and track progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Steve.</p>
<p>Your point on the role of governments is well-made and the crux of the problem.</p>
<p>Right now most countries in Africa have multiple operators stemming from the liberalization of the markets on the last few years. World wide few countries except the very largest can sustain more than 4 operators, so the operator competitive situation in Africa is actually pretty good. Coverage competition is another matter, but the nature of dispersed populations and large land mass means this is never going to easy to fix.</p>
<p>For an investor point of view, governments in Africa are at best ineffective. Ministers are all too often ignorant of technology and ignorant of implications such as levying taxes, as many do, on mobile services.</p>
<p>To invest the sort of sums of money needed to roll out a nationwide network or new service eg data, and operator needs to show to the investor how to get a return on the money with some sort of security over time that rules won&#8217;t change.</p>
<p>Every change of government, minister or tax policy creates a cost for us in terms of risk management.</p>
<p>But equally distorting is where governments try to &#8220;promote&#8221; an industry ie seeing telecoms as an enabling infrastructure and then using governmental power whether subsidies, rules or legislation to force the pace along. All too often this actually results in certain companies being favoured, even to the point of unanticipated monopoly.</p>
<p>In the absence of good policy, we would all prefer the governments to set policy and then allow the market to proceed under the national commission supervision.</p>
<p>Where we can discuss good policy with government, they quickly realise your point that telecoms IS an enabling infrastructure.</p>
<p>For your information my company is planning a major investment in a country where we are able to link up with various ministries such as towns, power, water and roads. An effective policy here we are promoting is to obtain multiple benefits from the investment. So the machinery needed to dig fibre routes will be used at very marginal added cost to dig power lines and building foundations.  The equipment that follows to build the repeater stations or cellular towers will, when finished, then build the village school and clinic &#8211; again at marginal cost for the authorities.</p>
<p>It has taken a very patient three years for our team to arrive at this point. As soon as contracts are signed I will let you know our website and track progress.</p>
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